Fix form border widths in Access 2016 under Windows 10
I don't know if this is a general problem with Office 2016, or if it is specific to Windows 10 users, but I find that sizable MDI forms in Access 2016 have a single-pixel border that is very hard to grab with the mouse.
The form borders show as a single-pixel red line, and have no difference in appearance regardless of the mode of the form, whether the mode is "no border", "dialog", "sizable" or "thin". The border appears the same in design mode.
I've tried this on a couple of different computers running Office 2016 under Windows 10, and the problem is the same, so it's not a driver issue. I've opened the database under Office 2010 and Windows 7 and the borders come up at the normal size for Windows 7. I haven't tried Office 2016 under Windows 7 though.
I have to assume that the problem is related to the way that form borders are handled in Windows 10, where the drop-shadow forms part of the draggable area.
and now it’s fixed :-)
A fix has been released to O365 subscribers.
JPS commented · Just Now · Delete
The problem is not limited to Windows 10. My configuration is as follows
• Windows 7.0 pro
• Office 365
• MS Access 2016 16.0.7766.7080 32-bit (downloaded 27Feb17, installed, rebooted)
I have seen various cites where it is listed as fixed.
• http://access.uservoice.com/ (thanks for updating your status to 'under review')
• https://support.office.com/en-us/art...1-98a456cb3496 (June 2016 -Objects in Query Design window easier to resize)
However this is still a problem. I have been an MS Access developer for 20 years. Access is a great product. This, however, is painful.
This effects resizing of
• Queries (in design view, sql view, and datasheet view)
• Forms (in design and form view - with border style set to 'sizable')
• Reports (in report, print preview, layout, and design views)
• The Relationships window itself
• Note: the tables within the relationship builder have a one pixel, red border just like all other borders. However these borders act differently - probably because of a fix(?). These borders do allow the user to grab them more easily (as if there is a invisible additional pixel on either side of the border that reacts to the mouse click when it is in close proximity).
• Note: the tables within the query builder have a one pixel, red border just like all other borders. However these borders act differently - same comment as above...
The fix that was applied for individual table windows within the query design and individual table windows within relationship builder: Do this for everything else in the list please.
Why? Developers often have multiple windows open: comparing the design of three reports or looking at data in multiple tables. Please help us resize our design objects. Looking forward to your solution.
This has been going on since December of 2015? Yeah, I can tell the developers at Microsoft are really putting this at the highest level of importance. Since I'm taking the time to add my two cents, let me just point out that removing the ability to resize a form from the bottom and left sides was ridiculously short-sighted, forcing users to increase movements and waste more time. Not all interactions with a program are productive, and negative reinforcement will not only drive away customers, it will cause those of us who are programmers to begin building our own development tools to go into competition with you. Some of those turn out to be very profitable for us, and not so much for you. Is that really your goal?
Bill Stolk commented
Any word on this? It's been five months now, can you at least give us an update?
It is extremely annoying and frustrating trying to resize a window in Access, such as the query design window, and at the same time it is something that needs to be done ALL the time (especially if you work on different monitors during a project)!
How can anyone think it is a good idea to have such a thin line as a border when it is supposed to be sizable!
Need a fix yesterday!
Still no fix. This makes using Access 2016 on Windows 10 very frustrating. I sometimes spend 10 seconds trying to get the mouse in just the right spot to resize a window.
Just switched to MS Access 2016 yesterday and I quickly ran into this "grabbing the border" issue. Any ETA on a fix? Thank you.
Please fix as quickly as possible. This makes working with windows of all types nearly impossible within Access.
Paul Denman commented
+1 For this needing a fix *AS SOON AS POSSIBLE* please
This is causing a very real problem and impacting on development time for many people
Pat Hartman commented
Could you please get on with this. You have no idea how frustrating it is to have to fight with this MULTIPLE times EVERY SINGLE DAY. The app may not be broken from your perspective, but from a usability standpoint it is.
And, please - stop with the change for the sake of change - that's how stupid stuff like this happens. The A2016 rendition is not better or prettier, it is simply different and due to this and other problems (dropped support for sight problems), it is inferior to A2013. If you are going to FORCE us to upgrade, you have to stop doing this to us.
Please fix this.
Oh, and by the way. The problem is still there in Query design AND relationships window, though the Relationships window does seem to be a bit more responsive. (Maybe 2 pixels worth???)
Totally on board with this comment! Very frustrating trying to grab that thin border. ALSO, while you're at it, how about the little square on the side of a control. When the Control extends to the full width of the form, the border (along with the little resize handles (squares?)) disappear completely. You have to stretch the form so you can see the edge of the control. Also, default color of YELLOW?? Very hard to see in the first place. Thanks for letting me vent.
Wayne Kessler commented
This is infuriating. Please fix. It is the same on Windows Server 2012R2; much older problem than Windows 10!!!
Greg Shergold commented
So any update on this? Windows 7 here, with Access 2016 with the 1px thin borders. I will also point out this whole "flat" design office has gone to is just plain ugly in my eyes. What is worse, is there is no option to use the look of your operating system - I wouldn't be complaining on that if there was that option
Richard White commented
This has to be one of the most aggravating "features" in Access 2016. Anyone who works in Access on a daily basis has to be driven nuts by this. How could this not have been vetted in user testing?
I second that emotion...
Yeah it really is annoying. I think i will be go back to 2013 because it REALLY slows me down
hi Michal, do you have an ETA on this fix? I have most recent updates and all objects (forms/tables/queries) have only a 1 pixel red border. Really hard working with it ...
problem is not related to OS. did this pass user testing???
Bill Stolk commented
Thanks Michal - I appreciate the correction! Looking forward to the final fix.