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Fix form border widths in Access 2016 under Windows 10

I don't know if this is a general problem with Office 2016, or if it is specific to Windows 10 users, but I find that sizable MDI forms in Access 2016 have a single-pixel border that is very hard to grab with the mouse.

The form borders show as a single-pixel red line, and have no difference in appearance regardless of the mode of the form, whether the mode is "no border", "dialog", "sizable" or "thin". The border appears the same in design mode.

I've tried this on a couple of different computers running Office 2016 under Windows 10, and the problem is the same, so it's not a driver issue. I've opened the database under Office 2010 and Windows 7 and the borders come up at the normal size for Windows 7. I haven't tried Office 2016 under Windows 7 though.

I have to assume that the problem is related to the way that form borders are handled in Windows 10, where the drop-shadow forms part of the draggable area.

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      • Nigel Dyer commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Hit the same problem. Often I find I can grab one size of a dialog box and resize it, but not the other. Its very annoying

      • Sam Smith commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        'use ctrl+f8 and arrow keys as a workaround' - Genius - thank you! :)

        MS - why is this so hard to fix?

      • dbDesigner commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I got a new laptop this week and installed office 2016. Oh my goodness, the borders on forms are so thin that it is REALLY difficult to grab with the mouse. I used access 2010 before, which worked fine, and now I am wasting time on a silly issue like this! Very very frustrating. Please provide a fix for this? Seeing how many others have complained about this since 2015 already, I am getting worried. There has to be a way to change this setting?

      • Tedd commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I waste a lot of time trying to resize tables within queries. The border is extremely hard to grab and drag. A little wider would make my life easier. Everytime I try to resize a table within a query I curse the person that made the decision to make the border more narrow. This is very very very frustrating!!

      • Peter commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It is very difficult to grab the border to expand/reduce the window. Why isn't this perceived to be a major issue when it would take me sometimes 10 seconds to get the mouse pointer aligned just right?

      • Loise commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Same problem - want to pull hair out and abandon office altogether! :(

      • Adam Seward commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The difficulty in resizing the border windows in Access is such a massive time waster! I cannot believe this hasn't been fixed. Surely it's not that hard? It is certainly a necessary tweak.

      • Sam Smith commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Please will you fix this MS as it is ridiculous. This is my first full week using Access 2016 after upgrading from 2013 and it is driving me to the point where I am considering going back to 2013. Honestly - those of you on here who have been putting up with this for months must have the patience of saints.

        Please fix this. I'll be your best friend. :)

      • Sam Smith commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        'We did fix a similar issue with Query design and Relationship window, but haven’t fixed this one.'

        Erm nope - it's still 1px wide in both these windows too - so not fixed.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I am absolutely furious about this ongoing issue with something so fundamental.

        Fix it now!

        What excuse is there for letting this issue sit for so long? You already have our money? Is that it? Your monopoly is secure, so why bother?

      • Gustav commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Strange. I've never seen this as an issue. Maybe I'm just better with a mouse than most.

      • Rob commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Its pretty clear that no matter how much we complain about this, they are not fixing anything until they are good and ready. I certainly hope they fix this in the next version (at the least) because it really is a PITA.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This behaviour is still exhibited on Access 2016 under Windows 7 Enterprise. It's driving me nuts. The amount of time I waste trying to carefully position cursor over a single pixel to resize a window is infuriating. Please sort it out and quickly.

      • Bodmoor commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        bump.

        We're also waiting for an option to at least change the color of the border.

      • xkater commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

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        Bill Stolk shared this idea  ·  December 06, 2015
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        Access Team (Admin, Microsoft) responded  ·  September 09, 2016
        I apologize for an honest mistake with updating the status to Done.
        We did fix a similar issue with Query design and Relationship window, but haven’t fixed this one.
        Again – sorry for the mix-up.
        Michal [MSFT]

        Access is unusable - I just had a pop-up window NOT show ANY grabber, no matter how slowly (pixel-by-pixel) you move the cursor ! ! !
        ! ! !

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