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Fix form border widths in Access 2016 under Windows 10

I don't know if this is a general problem with Office 2016, or if it is specific to Windows 10 users, but I find that sizable MDI forms in Access 2016 have a single-pixel border that is very hard to grab with the mouse.

The form borders show as a single-pixel red line, and have no difference in appearance regardless of the mode of the form, whether the mode is "no border", "dialog", "sizable" or "thin". The border appears the same in design mode.

I've tried this on a couple of different computers running Office 2016 under Windows 10, and the problem is the same, so it's not a driver issue. I've opened the database under Office 2010 and Windows 7 and the borders come up at the normal size for Windows 7. I haven't tried Office 2016 under Windows 7 though.

I have to assume that the problem is related to the way that form borders are handled in Windows 10, where the drop-shadow forms part of the draggable area.

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      • xkaterxkater commented  · 

        Bill Stolk shared this idea  ·  December 06, 2015
        Under Review  · 

        Access Team (Admin, Microsoft) responded  ·  September 09, 2016
        I apologize for an honest mistake with updating the status to Done.
        We did fix a similar issue with Query design and Relationship window, but haven’t fixed this one.
        Again – sorry for the mix-up.
        Michal [MSFT]

        Access is unusable - I just had a pop-up window NOT show ANY grabber, no matter how slowly (pixel-by-pixel) you move the cursor ! ! !
        ! ! !

      • JPSJPS commented  · 


        single pixel borders looks sleek - but designing forms, reports, etc - it is such a pain to move things around and resize. Let alone allowing the user to resize their forms!

      • Aaron SchroederAaron Schroeder commented  · 

        Any update from Microsoft on whether or not there are plans to fix this issue?

      • Bill StolkBill Stolk commented  · 

        Seriously guys, it's been nearly a year since your last message - any progress?

      • TomGTomG commented  · 

        Thought I was the only one. What a pain. I agree with Foo. I find it a bit easier to grab the upper right corner and expand up and right. Then of course the form needs to start lower left which is not usually the case.

      • FooFoo commented  · 

        What are the guys as MS doing???? Do they not have any pride in what they do? (This is a rhetorical question; clearly they do not.)

      • OTOT commented  · 

        Hurry up!

        How long can this possibly take?

      • MikeMike commented  · 

        yep...nothing more fun that spending 45 seconds trying to capture the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        This has been "being fixed" for ages now.
        I need the skills of a Grey's Anatomy surgeon to be able to move or size a border.
        And waste much time and frustration as well!
        Surely this is just basic programming.
        You have not fixed the Querry design window either!

      • Sir TadpoleSir Tadpole commented  · 

        To whom it may concern,
        It is with the kindest of sentiments that I write this most enduring request. If it so pleases you and your counsel, would you perhaps kindly entreat the young fellow now residing at the North Pole to placate the fears of all and restore tranquility to the land by gently nudging him to perform this unresolved duty to increase the dreadful size of the border widths? With this accomplishment, my dearest and humble gratitude shall be yours.
        Sir Tadpole

      • MS HaterMS Hater commented  · 

        Our company just moved to Office 2016 (sic) and I just came into this amazing feature of ultra tiny borders within MS Access and I went almost crazy. Micfrosoft WTF you were thinking of? I'd find the developer and kick him to his ass constatly so it will bring him to a North pole. Damn it...

      • RichRich commented  · 

        Please apply fix

      • Dan GimpelDan Gimpel commented  · 

        Fix the form and table borders already! This issue is my #1 reason for not migrating from Win 7 to Win 10!

      • John McLarenJohn McLaren commented  · 

        I have been using Access for over 18 years. Not since Access 97 have I been this frustrated.
        Recently I purchased a new 4K monitor to help me with my work but now that I have it, it makes it harder due to the problems highlighted in this thread. It is almost impossible to resize table and query windows. It takes a good 10-15 seconds to line up the mouse.

        Please take some time to fix this. Even supplying us with an ETA would help us manage our frustrations.

      • Michael ChristopherMichael Christopher commented  · 

        This is ridiculous. It's a simple fix, Microsoft! I can't spend my Access coding days trying to grab a window border! How many thousands of hours has this wasted for your customers already?

      • Harm LommersHarm Lommers commented  · 

        I'm running this software for a week and I'm already tired of it, you cannot work like this... Please fix this MS...

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        This is bogus. This needs to be fixed like yesterday.

      • JeremyJeremy commented  · 

        Microsoft, could someone give an ETA on this fix? This has to be the most frustrating bug in the app! You can't tell me the right developer with a couple hours couldn't fix this?

      • Anonymous commented  · 


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