Fix form border widths in Access 2016 under Windows 10
I don't know if this is a general problem with Office 2016, or if it is specific to Windows 10 users, but I find that sizable MDI forms in Access 2016 have a single-pixel border that is very hard to grab with the mouse.
The form borders show as a single-pixel red line, and have no difference in appearance regardless of the mode of the form, whether the mode is "no border", "dialog", "sizable" or "thin". The border appears the same in design mode.
I've tried this on a couple of different computers running Office 2016 under Windows 10, and the problem is the same, so it's not a driver issue. I've opened the database under Office 2010 and Windows 7 and the borders come up at the normal size for Windows 7. I haven't tried Office 2016 under Windows 7 though.
I have to assume that the problem is related to the way that form borders are handled in Windows 10, where the drop-shadow forms part of the draggable area.
and now it’s fixed :-)
A fix has been released to O365 subscribers.
Can you give us a KB number for not 0365 subscribers ?
I finally, begrudgingly, had to move to Windows 10 - with Office 2016 - and I'm barely two days in - and I AM SO TIRED of playing whack-a-mole trying to get the mouse on the 1-pixel border to resize windows/forms... Way to go MS - Completely upend the ONE thing that "Windows" brought to the table so many years ago --- It must be nice to be able to make stupid design decisions like this that MOST users hate, and not fix them FOR YEARS... ...and not only 'stay in business', but continue to rule the business world... Absolutely unbelievable... Are there any actual human users in the state of Washington with any influence on MS UI design? Computers are here for us - not the other way around.
BOO - Not Fixed in Access 2016!
I yam who I yam commented
Is there a fix for MSI-Based installations?
office 2007 to 2013 were much easier & more easy to configure to make personally user friendly, with ability to change Active Title Bar colors, InActive Bar, Scroll Bar widths, Border widths, etc., under simple Display option & now everything is bog standard colors & boring & less creative - PLEASE go back to the better versions of Office - Microsoft should be able to do better than this.
Bill Stolk commented
Fantastic! It took three years, but thank you!
Lol and now it's fixed!!!??? Damn Microsoft is lazy and dumb in regards of fixing stuff and evolving. You produced a perfectly working version of office 2003. Then you wanted to change the world with the crappy Windows 10 new GUI that doesn't work and makes every IT specialist have to learn everything back again.
Then you produced Office 2007, 2010 and 2013 which were all working great with no border problem. Then you produce 2016 with a crapy Interface that doesn't work.
And you answer to that huge flaw and unprofessionnal software: "We fixed it for the 365 clients"
What about those who wasted money on 2016??? Why saying you fixed something you didn't? You just changed the whole version with a new buy necessary!
I'm guessing the fix is a high resolution mouse.
I would love to see this fixed, very troublesome. Spend five minutes trying to get the resize icon on all form windows in access. How could this be changed with no dev testing?
Phill Ash commented
Why can't Access Respect Windows' settings. I can, at least, bodge up the frame thickness in Regedit. I don't need to do the vulcan Death Grip to rezise a window
L Johnson commented
Not fixed as far as I can tell Sam Smith. And I just forced a check for updates... still not fixed. But I'm not getting your version. Says I am up to date at v1803 Build 9126.2282 so ?? Running 32-bit in click-to-run office 365 environment. Anyone know how I can get this latest build Sam Smith is speaking of?
L Johnson commented
9/19/2018 - Same issue. I mean seriously, WTH guys? I've been struggling with this ever since updating to windows 10 over a year ago...
Sam Smith commented
It's fixed! - Thank you! Would be good to get a proper version - history - fix list when you release new updates so we knew - but thank you! :)
I am on 365 2016 1808 build 10730.20088 and it all works - forms and QBE window now.
LOL - this is going on now to be a 3 YEAR OLD PROBLEM!!!!
You guys deserve the rest of this at this point...
Guess you don't use your own products. If you did - this would have been fixed in week 1 as it is unusable in any productive environment.
Perhaps it's time to spend another whack of money on a survey to find out what your users want - vs simply listening to them. Always a massive puzzle to understand what goes on there.
You should be ashamed - or at the very least - very embarrassed by this.
Or - Why not just make 'em 0 pixels and save everyone the hassles?
[ no sarcasm there :-) ]
This needs to be re-opened - it Is NOT done !
SO FUCKING FIX IT ALREADY!!! How hard can that be you lazy fucks?
Ready to scream commented
Having same issue since updating to Windows 10 (Office 2016). Never had trouble with this before Windows 10. It's maddening. I hold the mouse over the border, and the double-headed arrow appears briefly then disappears again. Eventually, I manage to grab the border. I use multiple Access windows at the same time, with lots of other things open on my desktop, so this is something I have to do multiple times per day, every day. PLEASE FIX THIS.
Nigel Dyer commented
Hit the same problem. Often I find I can grab one size of a dialog box and resize it, but not the other. Its very annoying
Sam Smith commented
'use ctrl+f8 and arrow keys as a workaround' - Genius - thank you! :)
MS - why is this so hard to fix?
use ctrl+f8 and arrow keys as a workaround